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I’m serving, but how do I serve deeper? I think I’m unselfish, but what are my hidden areas of selfishness, and so on. See, that’s level two. Then there's still a level three, and that is senior, true elder, what I call radical discipleship. That’s people who have been, their lives have been together and they’ve been serving for a long time. That’s the stage where we’re praying ready for death. You know, it’s not a stage we’re in yet, thank goodness, but I mean that’s the stage when you’re 70, you’re 75, you’re 80, where your health is failing, and then the spiritual direction is a lot about letting go.1