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Okay, that’s at one level. There's a second level where you're entering spiritual direction and your life is essentially together. You’re no longer sorting out the big who am I, what does life mean, is there a God, are all the churches the same, where you’ve already got basic commitments in your life, and you’re already basically a generative person, and you have discipline. See, discipline from the word discipleship is essential. Discipline, you know, your life is together, more or less, and you’re trying to give it away. See, then spiritual direction at that level is a lot about deepening. I’m praying, but how do I pray deeper?1